[socal-piggies] Email Disclaimers (was: Re: Python job opportunity)

[Brice Leroy]

I just did the "The Locomotion"

2011/6/22 Michael Chean <michael_chean at msn.com>

>  Generally, I strip that disclaimer out for messages like this.  I deal
> with a lot of lawyers, and I've taken the lead from disclaimers on their
> emails.  I also haven't
> heard of it actually being enforced.
>
> Mike
>
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:51:37 -0700
> > From: contact at charles-esterbrook.com
> > To: socal-piggies at lists.idyll.org
> > Subject: Re: [socal-piggies] Email Disclaimers (was: Re: Python job
> opportunity)
>
> >
> > No problem. Thoughts on the subject were what I was looking for, and I
> > appreciate them.
> >
> > -Charles
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Disclaimer: By the way, Charles, these are just guesses on my part from
> > > having worked at various companies that used the disclaimers and who
> had a
> > > corporate counsel at hand. So can't say for sure.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Funny, Charles. I think though that the disclaimer has to implicitly
> > >> reference some IP laws that exist so that it would hold up in court.
> Your
> > >> disclaimer is not based on any legal rights.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Charles Esterbrook
> > >> <contact at charles-esterbrook.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> You say "It is a legal contract of sorts that you agree to..." but I
> > >>> don't think that agreement is even possible:
> > >>>
> > >>> (a) Reading something does not form a contractual agreement.
> > >>>
> > >>> (b) The disclaimers come at the end which makes no sense. You
> wouldn't
> > >>> have a conversation with someone and then set terms for that
> > >>> conversation after you had it. By the time I have read the last
> > >>> content paragraph of one of these emails, I still haven't read the
> > >>> statements about "the information contained in this email".
> > >>>
> > >>> -Charles
> > >>>
> > >>> DISCLAIMER: By reading the above email, you have agreed to pay me 10%
> > >>> of all future revenues derived from employment, contracts, business
> > >>> ownership, inheritances and gambling on a quarterly basis.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <
> iozkaragoz at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > I think one of the main benefits of the disclaimer is that it
> allows a
> > >>> > company with the disclaimer the legal right to sue any suspect
> > >>> > person/organization that allegedly infringes on its IP that was
> > >>> > transmitted
> > >>> > via email. It is a legal contract of sorts that you agree to with
> the
> > >>> > act of
> > >>> > reading the email. It also acts as a legal warning to those so
> tempted
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > misuse the information contained therein. Similar to the copy
> > >>> > infringement
> > >>> > warnings stated at the start of purchased movie videos. It does not
> > >>> > prevent
> > >>> > all thieves from copying, but it does give the law the right to
> > >>> > prosecute
> > >>> > after warning people of the law.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Dan Stromberg <strombrg at gmail.com
> >
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Charles Esterbrook
> > >>> >> <contact at charles-esterbrook.com> wrote:
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Michael Chean
> > >>> >>> <michael_chean at msn.com>
> > >>> >>> wrote:
> > >>> >>> >
> > >>> >>> > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail is
> intended
> > >>> >>> > only
> > >>> >>> > for
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> Have people using these types of disclaimers enjoyed any
> benefits?
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> I've never heard of a tangible benefit, but that doesn't mean it
> > >>> >> doesn't
> > >>> >> exist.  I've also seen some pretty serious companies that didn't
> > >>> >> require
> > >>> >> them.
> > >>> >> It reminds me of a playful series of radio commercials on a
> Cincinnati
> > >>> >> radio station called WEBN:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Brute Force Cybernetics: The company that creates a need, and then
> > >>> >> fills
> > >>> >> it.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> --
> > >>> >> Dan Stromberg
> > >>> >>
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