[socal-piggies] Email Disclaimers (was: Re: Python job opportunity)

[Charles Esterbrook]

No problem. Thoughts on the subject were what I was looking for, and I
appreciate them.

-Charles


On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Disclaimer: By the way, Charles, these are just guesses on my part from
> having worked at various companies that used the disclaimers and who had a
> corporate counsel at hand. So can't say for sure.
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Funny, Charles. I think though that the disclaimer has to implicitly
>> reference some IP laws that exist so that it would hold up in court. Your
>> disclaimer is not based on any legal rights.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Charles Esterbrook
>> <contact at charles-esterbrook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You say "It is a legal contract of sorts that you agree to..." but I
>>> don't think that agreement is even possible:
>>>
>>> (a) Reading something does not form a contractual agreement.
>>>
>>> (b) The disclaimers come at the end which makes no sense. You wouldn't
>>> have a conversation with someone and then set terms for that
>>> conversation after you had it. By the time I have read the last
>>> content paragraph of one of these emails, I still haven't read the
>>> statements about "the information contained in this email".
>>>
>>> -Charles
>>>
>>> DISCLAIMER: By reading the above email, you have agreed to pay me 10%
>>> of all future revenues derived from employment, contracts, business
>>> ownership, inheritances and gambling on a quarterly basis.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I think one of the main benefits of the disclaimer is that it allows a
>>> > company with the disclaimer the legal right to sue any suspect
>>> > person/organization that allegedly infringes on its IP that was
>>> > transmitted
>>> > via email. It is a legal contract of sorts that you agree to with the
>>> > act of
>>> > reading the email. It also acts as a legal warning to those so tempted
>>> > to
>>> > misuse the information contained therein. Similar to the copy
>>> > infringement
>>> > warnings stated at the start of purchased movie videos. It does not
>>> > prevent
>>> > all thieves from copying, but it does give the law the right to
>>> > prosecute
>>> > after warning people of the law.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Dan Stromberg <strombrg at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Charles Esterbrook
>>> >> <contact at charles-esterbrook.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Michael Chean
>>> >>> <michael_chean at msn.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail is intended
>>> >>> > only
>>> >>> > for
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Have people using these types of disclaimers enjoyed any benefits?
>>> >>
>>> >> I've never heard of a tangible benefit, but that doesn't mean it
>>> >> doesn't
>>> >> exist.  I've also seen some pretty serious companies that didn't
>>> >> require
>>> >> them.
>>> >> It reminds me of a playful series of radio commercials on a Cincinnati
>>> >> radio station called WEBN:
>>> >>
>>> >> Brute Force Cybernetics: The company that creates a need, and then
>>> >> fills
>>> >> it.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Dan Stromberg
>>> >>
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