[socal-piggies] Email Disclaimers (was: Re: Python job opportunity)

[Inci Ozkaragoz]

Disclaimer: By the way, Charles, these are just guesses on my part from
having worked at various companies that used the disclaimers and who had a
corporate counsel at hand. So can't say for sure.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz at gmail.com>wrote:

> Funny, Charles. I think though that the disclaimer has to implicitly
> reference some IP laws that exist so that it would hold up in court. Your
> disclaimer is not based on any legal rights.
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Charles Esterbrook <
> contact at charles-esterbrook.com> wrote:
>
>> You say "It is a legal contract of sorts that you agree to..." but I
>> don't think that agreement is even possible:
>>
>> (a) Reading something does not form a contractual agreement.
>>
>> (b) The disclaimers come at the end which makes no sense. You wouldn't
>> have a conversation with someone and then set terms for that
>> conversation after you had it. By the time I have read the last
>> content paragraph of one of these emails, I still haven't read the
>> statements about "the information contained in this email".
>>
>> -Charles
>>
>> DISCLAIMER: By reading the above email, you have agreed to pay me 10%
>> of all future revenues derived from employment, contracts, business
>> ownership, inheritances and gambling on a quarterly basis.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I think one of the main benefits of the disclaimer is that it allows a
>> > company with the disclaimer the legal right to sue any suspect
>> > person/organization that allegedly infringes on its IP that was
>> transmitted
>> > via email. It is a legal contract of sorts that you agree to with the
>> act of
>> > reading the email. It also acts as a legal warning to those so tempted
>> to
>> > misuse the information contained therein. Similar to the copy
>> infringement
>> > warnings stated at the start of purchased movie videos. It does not
>> prevent
>> > all thieves from copying, but it does give the law the right to
>> prosecute
>> > after warning people of the law.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Dan Stromberg <strombrg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Charles Esterbrook
>> >> <contact at charles-esterbrook.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Michael Chean <michael_chean at msn.com
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail is intended
>> only
>> >>> > for
>> >>>
>> >>> Have people using these types of disclaimers enjoyed any benefits?
>> >>
>> >> I've never heard of a tangible benefit, but that doesn't mean it
>> doesn't
>> >> exist.  I've also seen some pretty serious companies that didn't
>> require
>> >> them.
>> >> It reminds me of a playful series of radio commercials on a Cincinnati
>> >> radio station called WEBN:
>> >>
>> >> Brute Force Cybernetics: The company that creates a need, and then
>> fills
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Dan Stromberg
>> >>
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