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    +1, using the interpreter to learn twill (and the underlying
    components) is both useful and a lot of fun.  If you're not familiar
    with Python, try <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://diveintopython.org/">http://diveintopython.org/</a>.<br>
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    - Mike<br>
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    On 10/26/10 7:03 PM, Barry Hart wrote:
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      cite="mid:AANLkTik-KH-_5p-pgtJ20qBk5E-cvwcx_yvZzAq_eEu8@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">This page has a link to the Scotch code:<br>
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        href="http://darcs.idyll.org/%7Et/projects/">http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/</a><br>
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      When I used twill, I didn't write any twill scripts, everything
      was in Python. Using the Python interpreter interactively (or
      better yet, IPython) is a good way to figure things out as you go,
      because you can experiment to find how to do things without having
      to keep switching back and forth to an editor.<br>
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      Maybe you could write things initially in Python and then
      translate back to twill (if that's what Zenoss requires)? Just a
      thought, I haven't used this approach myself.<br>
      <br>
      Barry<br>
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        On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Mart Doyle <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mdoyle@temple.edu">mdoyle@temple.edu</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">As of this morning, I didn’t know
                what twill
                was.  We are interested in using a monitor called Zenoss
                to perform some
                very basic application monitoring.  Zenoss has a feature
                which looks like
                it lets us run twill scripts and report on the
                availability of
                applications.  I guess the real challenge is learning
                how to write twill
                scripts.</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone have any good advice as
                to where to start to
                learn to develop twill scripts?  I started out reading <span
                  style="color: black;">An Introduction to Testing Web
                  Applications with twill and
                  Selenium by</span> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;search-alias=books&amp;field-author=C.%20Brown"
                  target="_blank"><span style="color: windowtext;
                    text-decoration: none;">C. Brown</span></a>, <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;search-alias=books&amp;field-author=Gheorghe%20Gheorghiu"
                  target="_blank"><span style="color: windowtext;
                    text-decoration: none;">Gheorghe Gheorghiu</span></a>,
                and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_3?_encoding=UTF8&amp;sort=relevancerank&amp;search-alias=books&amp;field-author=Jason%20Huggins"
                  target="_blank"><span style="color: windowtext;
                    text-decoration: none;">Jason Huggins</span></a>. 
                I’ve
                got twill installed and I can do some VERY basic
                navigation of VERY simple web
                sites.  For any site which is the least bit complicated
                I spend a lot of
                time fumbling around and am not really making progress. 
                I’ve been
                trying to find and install the scotch recorder with the
                hopes that I could use
                that to record navigation through a browser and use that
                information to help me
                figure out how to navigate using twill but I haven’t had
                much luck
                finding scotch.  Does it still exist?</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Any suggestions on how to get some
                traction developing my
                first few twill scripts to do some very basic monitoring
                of web applications?</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Mart Doyle</p>
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