[twill] Best place to get started?

Mike Gleeson montara at sonic.net
Tue Oct 26 21:26:07 PDT 2010

+1, using the interpreter to learn twill (and the underlying components) 
is both useful and a lot of fun.  If you're not familiar with Python, 
try http://diveintopython.org/.

- Mike

On 10/26/10 7:03 PM, Barry Hart wrote:
> This page has a link to the Scotch code:
> http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/ 
> <http://darcs.idyll.org/%7Et/projects/>
> When I used twill, I didn't write any twill scripts, everything was in 
> Python. Using the Python interpreter interactively (or better yet, 
> IPython) is a good way to figure things out as you go, because you can 
> experiment to find how to do things without having to keep switching 
> back and forth to an editor.
> Maybe you could write things initially in Python and then translate 
> back to twill (if that's what Zenoss requires)? Just a thought, I 
> haven't used this approach myself.
> Barry
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Mart Doyle <mdoyle at temple.edu 
> <mailto:mdoyle at temple.edu>> wrote:
>     As of this morning, I didn’t know what twill was.  We are
>     interested in using a monitor called Zenoss to perform some very
>     basic application monitoring.  Zenoss has a feature which looks
>     like it lets us run twill scripts and report on the availability
>     of applications.  I guess the real challenge is learning how to
>     write twill scripts.
>     Does anyone have any good advice as to where to start to learn to
>     develop twill scripts?  I started out reading An Introduction to
>     Testing Web Applications with twill and Selenium by C. Brown
>     <http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&field-author=C.%20Brown>,
>     Gheorghe Gheorghiu
>     <http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_2?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&field-author=Gheorghe%20Gheorghiu>,
>     and Jason Huggins
>     <http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_3?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&field-author=Jason%20Huggins>. 
>     I’ve got twill installed and I can do some VERY basic navigation
>     of VERY simple web sites.  For any site which is the least bit
>     complicated I spend a lot of time fumbling around and am not
>     really making progress.  I’ve been trying to find and install the
>     scotch recorder with the hopes that I could use that to record
>     navigation through a browser and use that information to help me
>     figure out how to navigate using twill but I haven’t had much luck
>     finding scotch.  Does it still exist?
>     Any suggestions on how to get some traction developing my first
>     few twill scripts to do some very basic monitoring of web
>     applications?
>     Mart Doyle
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