[TIP] TiP BoF 2017 / Portland

[James Cooke]

Hi Chris,



I didn't understand either, thanks for asking! - I think that this is
what is being referred to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_a_feather_(computing)


If someone could confirm that, that'd be cool :+1:



Thanks,



James







On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, at 05:48 PM, Chris Jerdonek wrote:

> 

> 

> Can someone explain what a "BoF" is? I hope the event announcement
> also explains so newcomers feel welcome.
> 

> --Chris

> 

> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:28 AM Harry Percival
> <harry.percival at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Glad to hear plans are in progress!  I'd certainly rather a TiP BoF
>> with a few rules than no BoF at all, and I'm sure it's possible to
>> still have fun.
>> With that said, I'd like to hear more about the "commentators" idea.
>> I'm probably jumping to conclusions here, but my fear is that it
>> could come across as a bit cliquey and elitist.  Is everyone else
>> supposed to just sit silently?  I'm sure there's a way of modelling
>> "good" heckling that would let newcomers pick up on the vibe of
>> what's ok and what's not ok without having to designate who is and is
>> not allowed to speak.  perhaps we could have a couple of practice
>> heckles from commentators only before opening up the free-for-all?
>> 

>> perhaps simply explaining out loud, at the beginning, what went wrong
>> last time would be enough to keep people on track?  eg "remember,
>> even if you know someone very well and you know they won't mind you
>> calling them out for having a hamster as a father and a mother who
>> smelt of elderberries, other people in the room may not realise that
>> you know each other, and they might now think it's ok to insult
>> strangers' parental species / adoxaceal-BO. so, keep your heckles CoC-
>> compliant, and let's concentrate on the kinds of heckles that bring
>> us together as a community (eg "ruby sucks!" (which we all know isn't
>> true but it's something we say for group bonding purposes)).
>> 

>> HP

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 at 14:00 Doug Hellmann
>> <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:
>>> Excerpts from C. Titus Brown's message of 2017-04-12 05:46:49 -0700:
>>>  > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 06:45:44AM +0100, Chris Withers wrote:

>>>  > > On 12/04/2017 00:27, holger krekel wrote:

>>>  > >> Hey Terry,

>>>  > >>

>>>  > >> nice to hear from you but whats going on with this emphasis on
>>>  > >> policing?
>>>  > >> Last time i attended - 4 years ago or so - it was quite some
>>>  > >> fun and quite
>>>  > >> informal ... did anything go badly wrong in subsequent TiP
>>>  > >> BOFs?
>>>  > >

>>>  > > Yeah, sounds like it'll be riotous fun.

>>>  > >

>>>  > > Maybe they'll be bringing some United staff to help out?

>>>  >

>>>  > Hi all,

>>>  >

>>>  > yes - there were two incidents, one of drug use and one of verbal
>>>  > harassment of
>>>  > a speaker, at the 2013 BoF.  (They may have been by the same
>>>  > person, not sure.)
>>> 

>>>  They were.

>>> 

>>>  >

>>>  > https://pycon.blogspot.com/2013/03/pycons-response-to-inapropriate.html
>>>  >

>>>  > This is why we can't have nice things.

>>>  >

>>>  > ---

>>>  >

>>>  > Terry can correct me, but IIRC:

>>>  >

>>>  > The 2013 BoF was much less fun because of overt incidents like
>>>  > the above,
>>>  > along with what seemed to be a generally higher background
>>>  > level of
>>>  > jerks (larger audience, more drinking, less friendly, basically).
>>>  >

>>>  > After talking amongst ourselves, the organizers of the BoF
>>>  > decided that we
>>>  > were ill-equipped to deal with this kind of stuff as the BoF was
>>>  > currently
>>>  > run, and so we punted on it for a few years.  Glad to see Terry
>>>  > and others
>>>  > bringing it back!

>>>  >

>>>  > And, ya know what? If it doesn't sound like fun, don't come!
>>>  > Plenty of other
>>>  > stuff going on in Portland.

>>>  >

>>>  > best,

>>>  > --titus

>>> 

>>>  This sounds like it would be a reasonable step to take to try to
>>>  bring
>>>  the BoF back. I wish I was going to be in Portland this year
>>>  to help
>>>  with it.

>>> 

>>>  Doug

>>> 

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