[TIP] structure of a testing talk

Ned Batchelder ned at nedbatchelder.com
Wed Oct 3 04:03:59 PDT 2012

On 10/2/2012 8:08 AM, andrea crotti wrote:
> 2012/10/2 Ned Batchelder <ned at nedbatchelder.com>:
>> Andrea, this is helpful to me.  I've proposed a Getting Started Testing
>> tutorial for PyCon, and it's great to see how other people tell the story.
>> My tutorial is an expansion of a talk I did last year at Boston Python.  You
>> can see my slides from that talk at
>> http://nedbatchelder.com/text/starttest.html .  I'll accept tweaks to my
>> story line too!
>> --Ned.
> It looks very nice thanks, I like the idea of evolving tests to show
> how it's superior to doing it by hand..
> But are also the sources for the slides available?  I think you might
> really like https://github.com/nyergler/hieroglyph to produce html
> slides, the output is great and you can use all the Sphinx plugins (I
> use ditaa / graphviz and all the source code smart inclusions for
> example).
The HTML file is the source.  I use Cog to add automatic content to it, 
so the file is both the source and the output.  I'll take a look at 
hieroglyph, thanks.


> Here there is another example of two talks I've with this method:
> https://github.com/AndreaCrotti/pyconuk2012_slides
> Anyway only things I found are
> - slide 11 goes out
> - colors are a bit "shocking"
> Another nice thing which I've seen doing once (but might not be always
> possible) is to actually do some Test First Development calling people
> from the audience, each one creating a test and make it pass.
> It's a bit slow but a great way to make sure you're not going too fast
> and to see how someone not experience approaches the problem..

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