[TIP] Guidelines for where to put tests & how to package them

[Michael Foord]

On 26/02/2010 19:27, Olemis Lang wrote:
> [snip...]
>> Why not just:
>>
>>      tests='somepackage.tests'
>>
>>      
> Better explicit than implicit : what are `tests` ? test_suite is a test suite !
>
> so IMHO -1
>    

Tests are a test package. What if you want to specify something other 
than a test suite?

>    
>> Or even default to test discovery?
>>
>>      
> test command performs test discovery (as a last recourse AFAICR, /me
> cc-ing to P.J. Eby because probably he has further updates ;o) using a
> loader: setuptools.comand.test.xxx
>    
I'd rather follow up with Tarek (cc'd) as the lead maintainer of both 
distribute (the maintained fork of setuptools) and of distutils(2).

> BTW, I am strongly -1 for using the discovery protocol introduced in
> 2.7 (AFAICR), specially because it collides with test_suite
You'd rather not use a unittest supported protocol because it clashes 
with an unsupported protocol?

>   and many
> other arguments ...
Can you be specific?


> so it would be very nice when defining packaging
> conventions, layout ... not to enforce the use of that protocol, so
> that if another discovery is used then it could still be compatible
> with the more abstract good practices. (all this said from my selfish
> position, I confess)
>    

Yes, but get_suite/test_suite is not supported, so distutils2 still 
*should* use a unittest supported protocol. Probably Tarek and I need to 
discuss how the setup.py test command should work for distutils2. It 
should support non-unittest tests as well (I guess?) so specifying a 
unittest suite is not necessarily ideal.

Michael
>    
>> All the best,
>>
>> Michael Foord
>>
>>      
> PS: Sorry if not possible to distinguish where comments and replies start
> :-/
>
>    


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