[TIP] real world testing

Noah Gift noah.gift at gmail.com
Sun Jul 5 06:00:21 PDT 2009

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Noah Gift <noah.gift at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 5:48 AM, David Stanek <dstanek at dstanek.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Noah Gift<noah.gift at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I keep going back and forth in swings on very strict 100% code coverage
>> vs
>> > solving problems quickly under 2 day deadlines.  I think so far the 2
>> day
>> > deadline approach wins.  My gut tells me that there is some new theory
>> of
>> > testing that is a bit more real world then the testing Nazi
>> > approach.....especially in things like web development or film
>> production.
>> >  Comments?
>  There were a few good comments, like the comment about being able to write
> a solution in two days because it was built on a libraries that were tested.
>  In thinking about them and about testing, I can say that I am not 100% sold
> that you should always write tests for code anymore...as blasphemous as that
> sounds.  I think it depends.
> If I am writing a library, an API, or  releasing open source software,
> then, yes, testing is probably mandatory.  If I need to write a prototype,
> or solve a problem quickly, then it depends.  In film, for example, you may
> be asked to solve a problem in 2 days, and the solution could no longer be
> necessary in 7 days.  If it is necessary to stay in production longer then 7
> days, then you may just rewrite it, with tests.
> I think it is important to be truthful to people who haven't yet gotten in
> the habit of writing tests, that writing tests, depends on the context.
>  There is no silver bullet...at least I haven't found one.  Sometimes it
> actually is ok not to write a test, sometimes it isn't, but....it depends.
>  Another interesting thing is that if you get in the habit of writing code
> that is easy to test, say, every function returns something that is
> "assertable", then perhaps you now have written better code, and then as a
> result testing is less necessary for the context you are working in.
> --
> Cheers,
> Noah


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