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Generally, I strip that disclaimer out for messages like this. I deal with a lot of lawyers, and I've taken the lead from disclaimers on their emails. I also haven't<div>heard of it actually being enforced.</div><div><br></div><div>Mike<br><div><br><div>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:51:37 -0700<br>> From: contact@charles-esterbrook.com<br>> To: socal-piggies@lists.idyll.org<br>> Subject: Re: [socal-piggies] Email Disclaimers (was: Re: Python job opportunity)<br>> <br>> No problem. Thoughts on the subject were what I was looking for, and I<br>> appreciate them.<br>> <br>> -Charles<br>> <br>> <br>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Disclaimer: By the way, Charles, these are just guesses on my part from<br>> > having worked at various companies that used the disclaimers and who had a<br>> > corporate counsel at hand. So can't say for sure.<br>> ><br>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz@gmail.com><br>> > wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> Funny, Charles. I think though that the disclaimer has to implicitly<br>> >> reference some IP laws that exist so that it would hold up in court. Your<br>> >> disclaimer is not based on any legal rights.<br>> >><br>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Charles Esterbrook<br>> >> <contact@charles-esterbrook.com> wrote:<br>> >>><br>> >>> You say "It is a legal contract of sorts that you agree to..." but I<br>> >>> don't think that agreement is even possible:<br>> >>><br>> >>> (a) Reading something does not form a contractual agreement.<br>> >>><br>> >>> (b) The disclaimers come at the end which makes no sense. You wouldn't<br>> >>> have a conversation with someone and then set terms for that<br>> >>> conversation after you had it. By the time I have read the last<br>> >>> content paragraph of one of these emails, I still haven't read the<br>> >>> statements about "the information contained in this email".<br>> >>><br>> >>> -Charles<br>> >>><br>> >>> DISCLAIMER: By reading the above email, you have agreed to pay me 10%<br>> >>> of all future revenues derived from employment, contracts, business<br>> >>> ownership, inheritances and gambling on a quarterly basis.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Inci Ozkaragoz <iozkaragoz@gmail.com><br>> >>> wrote:<br>> >>> > I think one of the main benefits of the disclaimer is that it allows a<br>> >>> > company with the disclaimer the legal right to sue any suspect<br>> >>> > person/organization that allegedly infringes on its IP that was<br>> >>> > transmitted<br>> >>> > via email. It is a legal contract of sorts that you agree to with the<br>> >>> > act of<br>> >>> > reading the email. It also acts as a legal warning to those so tempted<br>> >>> > to<br>> >>> > misuse the information contained therein. Similar to the copy<br>> >>> > infringement<br>> >>> > warnings stated at the start of purchased movie videos. It does not<br>> >>> > prevent<br>> >>> > all thieves from copying, but it does give the law the right to<br>> >>> > prosecute<br>> >>> > after warning people of the law.<br>> >>> ><br>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Dan Stromberg <strombrg@gmail.com><br>> >>> > wrote:<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Charles Esterbrook<br>> >>> >> <contact@charles-esterbrook.com> wrote:<br>> >>> >>><br>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Michael Chean<br>> >>> >>> <michael_chean@msn.com><br>> >>> >>> wrote:<br>> >>> >>> ><br>> >>> >>> > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail is intended<br>> >>> >>> > only<br>> >>> >>> > for<br>> >>> >>><br>> >>> >>> Have people using these types of disclaimers enjoyed any benefits?<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> I've never heard of a tangible benefit, but that doesn't mean it<br>> >>> >> doesn't<br>> >>> >> exist. I've also seen some pretty serious companies that didn't<br>> >>> >> require<br>> >>> >> them.<br>> >>> >> It reminds me of a playful series of radio commercials on a Cincinnati<br>> >>> >> radio station called WEBN:<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> Brute Force Cybernetics: The company that creates a need, and then<br>> >>> >> fills<br>> >>> >> it.<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> --<br>> >>> >> Dan Stromberg<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >>> >> socal-piggies mailing list<br>> >>> >> socal-piggies@lists.idyll.org<br>> >>> >> http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/socal-piggies<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> ><br>> >>> ><br>> >>> > _______________________________________________<br>> >>> > socal-piggies mailing list<br>> >>> > socal-piggies@lists.idyll.org<br>> >>> > http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/socal-piggies<br>> >>> ><br>> >>> ><br>> >>><br>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >>> socal-piggies mailing list<br>> >>> socal-piggies@lists.idyll.org<br>> >>> http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/socal-piggies<br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > socal-piggies mailing list<br>> > socal-piggies@lists.idyll.org<br>> > http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/socal-piggies<br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> socal-piggies mailing list<br>> socal-piggies@lists.idyll.org<br>> http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/socal-piggies<br></div></div></div> </div></body>
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