[ec2m] Conversing Machines

Franklin Wayne Poley culturex at vcn.bc.ca
Fri Nov 17 14:41:01 PST 2000


On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Belinda wrote:

> The answer might be yes. It depends on few thngs that the P3 has. I am not
> familar with the P3, so I will word an answer based on what it might need.
> First, it would need the ability ot automatically link(like my Kanecki
> Prolog). Next, it would need an ability to learn and associate (advance neural
> nets like my KANN 2X and 3X), and it would need an ability to learn from it's
> environment (like my Intelligent-Thinking-Systems(ITS))...
> 
> B d'K

Hello Belinda:

Those who are more proficient logicians than me can hopefully find many
short-cuts in a meta-language suitable for converting to computer code.
I think that is one of the things you are saying above. Meanwhile let me
just make an observation from having raised a family to adulthood. If one
of my children at any age had come to me and asked what might have been
an appropriate thing to say under given circumstances, I would have given
a satisfactory answer. The circumstances would have been described for the
most part with a set of time, place and person(s) parameters.

   The fact that I carry such a huge set of norms around with me for
everyday conversation and can articulate those norms as required is not
extraordinary. Most adults can do this. Therefore I would say that a large
number of such adults should be able to set out the norms which would be
installed in a conversing robot sufficient to have it meet the criteria
for "human equivalency" in conversational ability. No doubt this would be
an enormous undertaking but I see no reason it cannot be done.

   To those who say this would simply be "rote verbalizing" and not
"real understanding" I would reply that we typically verbalize with as
much real understanding as we use in doing mental arithmetic. 

FWP

<http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm>

PS-"Bite my shiny metal ass" is not appropriate robot verbiage under any
circumstances. Bender is a very naughty robot.

> Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
> 
> > If you can teach English to a human in Japan who knows no English, can you
> > also teach it to a Honda humanoid like P3 ?
> > FWP
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